WELDED DIFF??
07-02-2008, 9:29 AM
Does anyone know if you can weld the diff on a mustang? I know every other 240sx has one. Just seeing since it has a trac-loc if it was possible.
Does anyone know if you can weld the diff on a mustang? I know every other 240sx has one. Just seeing since it has a trac-loc if it was possible.
Sure you can. All u gotta do is weld the spider gears to the ring gear- spin it 180, then weld that side- not that I'd know ... ha ha ha.
Sweet. Well thats what i figured but i was reading up on it and people were sayin diff things. I know its not the safest thing to do but i think that it would be ok for awhile.
you can also pick up a mini-spool for pretty cheap.
Mines been welded for........thinking......4 years? Not safe my ass- just wouldnt recommend it for a daily driver- those tight turns are bound to break something. Its also pretty hard on all bushings tieing into the rear end- but you can always do what I did- replace that with all sphearical bearings.-
The new car will be full-spool.
well the for right now is my daily driver. i was just looking and you can buy the mini spools for cheap. if i was to go that route would there still be a chance of breaking something? Do you haved to reset the whole rearend if you do a mini spool?
Geoff would know better than I would on that- it should be just like changing a pinion gear labor wise. If you're running stock rear end control arms, bushings, etc, they'll wear pretty soon- also, good luck driving that thing in the rain- and forget about ever pushing the car and trying to turn. A car with a welded or spooled diff turns from a 3,000 lbs car to a 5,000 lbs car as soon as you turn the front wheels just slightly. But, it kinda doubles as a park brake which is cool.
When the rear end is fully locked, you're trying to turn without slipping the tires (like drifting), it just binds up in the rear end- hence wearing hard on the only "giving" part, the bushings. For example, my buddy Calvin has a KAS14 with a rediculously aggressive 2 way LSD. Its so aggressive, normal street driving wore out all the rear sub frame bushings in a matter of about 6 months.
I've actually heard that lots of road race mustangs and even JRs mustang run a torsien- Geoff can you confirm?
This is the reason that I went with the air locker. Open on the street, spool at the track.
I have never met someone who was happy with their street car after putting in a spool.
You could try using the F-150 S spring and an extra clutch in you stock differential for a cheap track/street setup.
This week I've had my Diff welded :) Despite all the new sounds that appear and disappear after some minutes I TOTALY LOVE IT!! It has made such a big difference since the stock Diff. I realy sugest everyone to weld it if you don't want to spend lots of money on 2way's or air lock(i dont know how much does that cost)
The Air Locker setup was about $1200 by the time it was all together and in the car.
WOW now that's hell of money to spend on a diff! Mine costed me ~50$ :D
i would take an air locker any day over sacraficing my diff forever by welding it..
Fortunately stock mustang diffs can be had cheap. If I was building a pure track car I would have gone with a spool, but since I put about 15k street miles on the car each year, I needed to be able to open it up for the daily commute.
What about 2way LSD's are there some? Like for Nissans?
Yeah if you can find one let me know-
My Welded Diff broke down and the sad part is that It broke down in my first official event :((( The problem was the poor welding machine (not an electode one) and that it was welded while still in the car, was not taken out. So in the begining of the event before f'ckin up the first set of tires I noticed that the accelerator sensitivity was not that good so I went to check the diff and I noticed that It's open :( I was told that It's almost imposible to weld the same diff, so I'm shipping a new one or some from the scrapyard. Whitch one would you buy? How much does it weight?
that sucks ..............any one know whats the best kind of welder to use when welding a diff .............. because i plan on doing it when i get my project car ......im going to be on a buget
is the 94-98 rearend a direct replacement for the fox mustangs just in 5 lug?
sort of. The gears and diff are the same, along with the housing. but the axles and brake setup is different
Im new to this site, and was an import guy my whole life....then i bought a 5.0 and love it.. It is a new kind of drifting lol or sort of. The stock rearend is working for now but i need more consistency. I was wondering what type of diff. is good for road-racing as opposed to drifting, and possibly why?
Thanks guys... and you will be hearing about me in Chicago come spring as far as amature drifting goes.
GO WITH AN ELECTRIC ONE FOR HALF THE PRICE OF THE AIR LOCKER! No compressor either just a "drift button". LOL.
Auburn Ected Locker
Part Number: AUB545002
Ford 8.8in. Auburn Ected Manual Locker
For Use With 31 Spline Axles
Able To Shift Modes On The Fly
4 Year Replacement Warranty
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$688.99
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wow, i might have to get myself one of these...
Yeah, I have been wanting to try one of those ETec deals out. I talked to Auburn and they seemed to believe that it would survive the brutality of drifting.
That locker looks exactly like what I want and cheaper than the one in the Drift 5.0. How much of a PITA is it to install and how do you actuate the locker?
The installation of a new differential takes about 2-3 hours if you have the proper tools and a nice area to work. I installed the Air Locker in my parents driveway. You will need a torque wrench, dial indicator with a magnetic base, and a bearing shim pack. There are a number of places online that give instructions on the installation.
Hmm... still too rich for my blood. $1200 for air-locker, $700 for electronic locker, or $20 for good weld up job, and $150 for ENTIRE SPARE rear end from forum or junkyard.
I can think of 50 other ways I'd spend $700 or $1200 on my mustang-
BUT
I understand the want for a diverse rear end for everyone who dailys there mustang.
Totally agree with Dan
HAHA. Yeah, I could certainly think of a couple of ways to spend the $1200 that went into the airlocker elsewhere. Then again, I challenge you to a 12 month 60 mile a day commute with my airlocker to your welded any day.
:)
well, If you put high tires I mean R15 205/65 than you can barely feel the difference. You will have more problems when it's rainy :D I'm serious about that, my daily driven tires were R15 195/60 and I was fine in European conditions :D
What about the eaton locker or detroit locker. You know the gear lockers. I have a gear locker but I am not sure wich one. It only locks when 1 wheel starts to spin.
I am still learning how to drift so I dont know any better. I know it works better than stock and it has no problem making turns if you keep your foot out of it. I think it was like $500 bucks for all the parts to get it done.
The Auburn Gear ECTED LSD Electronic Locker
The ECTED is a selectable traction device; an on/off switch is mounted near the driver. When “off” – the clutch pack (7), which is located behind the side gear (6) provides the limited slip mode. As torque increases, the separating forces within the differential gears increase, causing the clutch pack to be compressed and thereby providing bias torque to the high traction wheel – your performance limited slip differential action. When selected “on”, current is sent to the electromagnetic coil (8). The coil is retained by a clip that fits over one of the bearing cap bolts, making it non-rotational. The coil rides on a ball bearing (9). The ball bearings spin with the differential case (10).
The coil creates a magnetic flux so that the pilot cone (1) is pulled into engagement with thedifferential case (10). This frictional engagement causes the bearing balls (2) to ride up on a ramp machined into the side gear (3). This radial travel of the balls (2) also causes lateral movement of the side gear (3). The lateral movement of the side gear (3) applies a force onto the center block (4). The center block (4) has an elongated hole that the center pin (5) fits through, allowing it to float. The center block (4) applies force to the opposite side gear (6), compressing the clutch pack (7) giving the user a solid axle assembly – the spool/locker performance you desire at the strip or off-road.
ECTED™ Advantages
•ECTED gearing is made from aircraft quality, 9310 heat-treated billet steel to make it as tough as nails!
•ECTED can be switched on or off “on the fly,” at any road speed.
•ECTED does not have any shift forks or pins that must be lined up to obtain locker mode.
•ECTED is quiet – say good-bye to noisy lockers!
•ECTED is backed by an industry-leading one-year warranty, just like all Auburn Gear Performance Differentials.
•ECTED is backed by the industry-exclusive program. D-REX = Differential – Replacement EXchange Program.
•ECTED can be used in front axle applications – with or without lockout hubs.
•ECTED is the only selectable locker that offers both limited slip and locker modes. Forget the rest - go with the best!
IT COMPARES THE ECTED TO THE ARB AIR LOCKER AND THE EATON LOCKER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE!!!!!!!!!
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