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2.3T or 5.0
08-18-2008, 5:18 PM
well i got a mustang but its a 4banger and the only ways i can get power thats needed for drifting is from a turbo or go for a 302. but my question is which would be more benficial, ive alrdy found an 88 T thunderbird for 600 localy and was thinking that might be nice do the turbo but i dont kno how the turbo does for drifting? also im guess the redline would still be pretty low
You can use a Turbo 4 cylinder without issue, but the 302 will probably be cheaper and more reliable in the long run.
cheaper? like getting a donar car or like buying each part. it thought it was more expensive
Honestly the donor car is a little expensive, but you buy the donor car and you've got everything you need. With a turbo you've got a lot more to worry about, as you start adding power you need to change the exhaust, fuel, intercooling, the head, pistons, drive train, suspension, etc. Not to mention that turbo charged cars tend to get out of whack on a regular basis, thus you have a continuing need to get the car tuned. Geoff can most likely tell you more on this seeing as he's the mechanic.
yea i was reading up on that on allformustang but like if i got a donar car woudnt the motor be f** up. but yea i see that i could swap out all the parts necessary to run the 5.0 in the 2.3
It might be cheapest to sell your 4 cylinder car and just buy a 5.0.
ya i agree w ith geoff...the cheapest way is to buy a stock fox body with the 302...although doing a swap on ur own could benificial on ur part because u will learn the car n and out but it will take time and alot more money but it will b built to ur likings...its all n ur personal appinion on what u want..a project or a quik cheap way out and hav everything there...and either way u go ull wanna keep building it and spending more money on it...
Not all donor cars have screwed up motors, some of them are just totaled out, which isn't difficult considering the Kelly Blue Book value of your average 5.0... Check Craigslist and ebay on a relatively frequent basis, I've seen a few decent wrecked cars on there in the past couple months, also try and find a car from 88-92 as they have forged pistons and not the crap hyperutectic ones.
I swear the Bay Area is the mecka for 5.0s. Ask anyone who's from there, you can find them all day for $1500 with a 5.0, usually with a bunch of aftermarket crap on em too. I bought my first one for $2500 with an ancient Paxton (which I ran until April of this year), and my last car I bought was a clean 90 GT missing its motor and trans for $800.
I definately would pick an 8 cylinder car, the 5.0s go all day without too much trouble. I think you'd waste a lot of time and money trying to get the 4cylinder turbo up to stock 5.0 performance. I love the idea of the turbo 4, but when it comes to money and ease nothing can beat out the stock 5.0.
Just my 2 cents.
ah .. i see, the bay is far from where i live (TN) but i do see every once in awhile some 5.0s but wen it came time to get my car i just happen to not find any 5.0s in good shape, but then i got the 4cylinder mainly cuz itl give me some stang knowledge so wen it comes down to the 5.0 il be set and milage.
I would believe that the biggest issue of the Turbo car (with modifications) would be cooling. Drifting is slightly different in the fact that you may sit in a line for 15 minutes before you can do your next run.
David use to drive a 240SX for a shop (the dicks made him pay for tires!) for a while; the car would have overheating problems when it was staging, and really only ran well when moving air went pass the intercooler. This may be chalked up to poor tuning, but it is a fairly common symptom of most turbo cars that go for high HP modifications.
In contrast to that, the 5.0 is somewhat different. I can remember David making the remark on how different (read as pleasurable) driving a V8 was, "I can run all day long and it will never overheat, I don't have to worry about anything. It just works." When taken with a grain of salt, knowing all cars are not perfect, this statement has a ring of truth. Especially if the car is going to be driven home at the end of a track day.
In the end, simplicity always wins.
Just my $0.02
you'll enjoy a normal 5.0 car a lot more than a 2.3t. Id just keep searching for a good 302 car and go from there.
srry to bring this old topic back to life, but its come time that im good to go on a swap and im thinking that v8 would be best, my friend said he found a 5.0 v8 for 500$ at the junk yard. is that i would probly have to find a 8.8 rear end.and ive been looking on other forums and ppl are sayin that the 4 cylinder trannyswont hold out ,but wats the differences between the 4 clyinder and v8 trannys if its just the difference in 1st gear(so ive been told)? why would the 4 cylinder tranny go out faster then a v8?btw im pretty dead set on not selling my car, and doing a swap,im madly in luv with the car lol, btw srry for all the questions
They made more design changes beyond just the gear ratios. The v8 cars used a transmission with the gears carried on bearings. You can search for "World Class T-5" and "Non-World Class T-5" to learn more about the two transmissions.
That being said, I picked up a "World Class" T-5 for $135 at pick=a=park.
tyvm i did not know,what parts would i have to go upgrade to a beefier setup for the v8 other then suspension parts that would go along for drifting?btw did you mean pick a part?
Yeah, pick-a-part. Typocity!!
You should not have to beef anything else up beyond what you will want to do for drifting. (ie. Subframes connectors)
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